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Home/The SaaS Podcast/Episode 441
Enterprise Sales: 18 Months of Zero Deals to $7M ARR
Enterprise Sales·Egidijus Pilypas, Exacaster

Enterprise Sales: 18 Months of Zero Deals to $7M ARR

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Egidijus Pilypas spent 18 months burning cash on enterprise sales outreach and didn't close a single deal. Not one.

In this episode, Egidijus reveals how Exacaster pivoted from failed cold outreach to account-based marketing that transformed their pipeline - going from zero booked meetings to 35 meetings at a single conference. You'll learn why enterprise sales in a niche market requires trust-first relationships, how a podcast built for 1,300 potential customers became their most powerful sales tool, and why over-investing with 20-person pitch teams started winning RFPs they used to lose.

Egidijus Pilypas is the co-founder of Exacaster, a SaaS company that helps subscription-based businesses grow revenue by turning customer data into actionable insights.

As a statistics student, Egidijus worked part-time at a telecom company where he first saw the challenges of managing large customer bases. A university lecturer introduced him to cutting-edge machine learning research, and together they built trading algorithms for financial markets.

When the trading experiment failed and Egidijus lost all his money, he pivoted. He called his former boss and pitched using machine learning to predict customer churn. The first company liked the idea but couldn't pay. The second said yes - and with no coding experience, Egidijus and his co-founder taught themselves to build a working platform in three months.

What looked like early traction turned into years of painful enterprise sales lessons. Each new customer brought a flood of custom demands that buried their tiny team in delivery work. For nearly a decade, sales and marketing were neglected while they scrambled to stay afloat.

When they finally hired an experienced salesperson and invested heavily in outbound enterprise sales, they spent 18 months burning cash and didn't close a single deal. Every RFP they entered, they lost - because by the time they received the request, they were already too late in the buying process.

That failure was the turning point. Egidijus realized they weren't selling software - they were selling trust. Here is how Exacaster used three enterprise sales strategies to transform their pipeline:

  1. Launched a niche podcast interviewing customer value managers (CVMs) at telcos - people who felt "lonely" in their roles and had nobody to share knowledge with
  2. Published the CVM Body of Knowledge book with contributions from 30+ industry professionals across the world
  3. Over-invested in enterprise sales pitches with 20-person teams responding to RFPs instead of sending 1-2 people

Today, Exacaster is a $7M+ ARR bootstrapped SaaS business serving customers in nearly 20 countries, with close to 100 team members.

This episode is part of our Enterprise Sales series.

Key Insight

Exacaster spent 18 months on outbound enterprise sales with zero closed deals. The breakthrough came when they stopped selling and started building trust through a niche podcast, industry research, and a collaboratively written book - going from zero booked meetings to 35 at a single conference.

Key Ideas

  • 18 months of cold outreach and RFP responses produced zero enterprise sales - every deal was lost because they entered too late in the buying process
  • Launched a podcast targeting 1,300 telco customer value managers globally, building personal relationships with 1,500+ of the 3,000 CVMs worldwide
  • Co-authored the CVM Body of Knowledge book with 30+ non-client contributors to establish thought leadership and trust
  • Shifted RFP responses from 1-2 person pitches to 20-person team presentations, moving from losing every bid to winning or placing top two
  • Created internal investment processes where account managers "purchase" internal resources to organize cross-functional sales efforts

Key Lessons

  • 📉 Cold outreach fails in complex enterprise sales: Exacaster burned cash for 18 months on cold calls and reactive RFP responses without closing a single deal, proving that enterprise buyers need trust before they'll engage.
  • 🎯 Find your ICP's emotional pain, not just their business pain: Customer value managers felt lonely and unrecognized in their organizations. Exacaster built a podcast and community around that emotional need, creating genuine connections.
  • 🤝 Build trust before the RFP arrives: By the time an enterprise buyer sends an RFP, they've already shortlisted vendors. Exacaster's ABM approach ensured they were known and trusted before any formal sales process began.
  • 🛠️ Over-invest in the enterprise sales pitch: Switching from 1-2 person pitches to 20-person team presentations transformed Exacaster's win rate. Enterprise buyers need to see the depth of expertise behind the proposal.
  • 🚀 Turn niche content into a sales engine: A podcast, benchmark tool, research reports, and a collaboratively written book gave Exacaster authority in a market of just 1,300 telcos - growing conference meetings from 2-3 to 35.
  • 🧠 Create internal markets for cross-functional enterprise sales: Exacaster gave account managers internal budgets to "purchase" delivery team time for RFPs, aligning the whole organization around winning deals without creating resentment.
  • 💰 Validate by getting paid before building: Egidijus had no product and no coding experience but convinced a telecom to pay upfront, then taught himself to code and shipped in three months - proving demand before investing time.

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Chapters

00:00Introduction
00:24What Exacaster does and who it serves
02:17Revenue, team size, and global reach
02:40Bootstrapping from Lithuania to 20 countries
03:25Origin story - from statistics student to telecom
05:15Failed algorithmic trading and the pivot to SaaS
06:30Landing the first paying customer with no product
07:40Teaching themselves to code and shipping in 3 months
09:36The enterprise delivery trap - custom demands burying the team
12:25How conference sales landed customers in Alaska and Paraguay
14:13The danger of letting one large customer dominate
16:42Why sales was neglected for nearly a decade
18:42Breaking the delivery-growth cycle
20:00Hiring a salesperson and the 18-month enterprise sales failure
21:20The aha moment - realizing they sell trust, not software
23:12Moving to account-based marketing
25:39Why marketing was ignored for 8 years
26:21Building the CVM Stories podcast for 1,300 telcos
29:31Making customer value managers famous on LinkedIn
33:30Writing the CVM Body of Knowledge book with 30+ contributors
34:46Results - from zero to 35 meetings at a single conference
36:30Over-investing in enterprise sales pitches with 20-person teams
39:49Internal investment process for cross-functional sales
42:20Lightning round and closing

Episode Q&A

Why did Exacaster's outbound enterprise sales strategy fail for 18 months?

They relied on cold calls, cold emails, and responding to RFPs reactively. By the time they received an RFP, competitors had already built relationships with the buyer - making Exacaster too late in every sales process.

How did Egidijus Pilypas land Exacaster's first paying customer with no product?

He pitched a telecom company on using machine learning to predict customer churn, got them to pay upfront, then taught himself to code and shipped a working platform in three months with his co-founder.

Why did Exacaster neglect sales and marketing for nearly a decade?

Every new enterprise customer brought overwhelming delivery demands that consumed their small team. They grew in bursts - doubling in size, breaking their org structure, rebuilding, and repeating - with no time left for sales.

How did Exacaster use a niche podcast to drive enterprise sales pipeline?

They launched CVM Stories, a podcast interviewing customer value managers at telcos - people who felt "lonely" in their roles. This built personal relationships with 1,500+ of the 3,000 CVMs globally and established Exacaster as a trusted authority.

What is account-based marketing and how did Exacaster implement it?

Exacaster identified all 1,300 telcos worldwide, then built trust through their podcast, CVM benchmark tools, research reports, and the CVM Body of Knowledge book - focusing on being genuinely useful rather than pitching products.

How did Egidijus Pilypas grow Exacaster's conference meetings from 2-3 to 35?

By investing a full year in content, community, and relationship-building through their podcast, book, and LinkedIn presence, Exacaster became a known authority - so prospects actively sought meetings at events.

Why did Exacaster switch to 20-person pitch teams for enterprise sales RFPs?

When only 1-2 people pitched, proposals lacked depth and clients couldn't see the team's expertise. Involving 20 people - data scientists, engineers, project managers - dramatically improved proposal quality and moved them from losing every RFP to winning or placing top two.

How did Exacaster bootstrap to $7M+ ARR from Lithuania without VC funding?

They grew organically through conference sales, then account-based marketing. Without external advisors, they learned marketing from scratch after eight years, eventually building a 100-person team serving customers in nearly 20 countries.

What internal process did Exacaster create to align delivery teams with enterprise sales?

Account managers were given internal budgets to "purchase" resources from delivery teams, ensuring teams felt compensated for stopping current work to contribute to RFP responses - equalizing internal sales work with external client work.

Book Recommendations

The Gap and the Gain: The High Achievers' Guide to Happiness, Confidence, and Success

by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy

CVMBoK: A Guide to Customer Value Management

by Egidijus Pilypas, Sarunas Chomentauskas, et al.

Links

  • Exacaster: Website | LinkedIn | X
  • Egidijus Pilypas: LinkedIn | X
  • Omer Khan: LinkedIn | X

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